linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation

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Message-Id: <200707121735.40077.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:35:38 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Mark Lord <lkml@....ca>
Cc:	david@...g.hm, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	nigel@...el.suspend2.net, Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@....edu>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation

On Thursday, 12 July 2007 15:51, Mark Lord wrote:
> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Thursday, 12 July 2007 08:43, david@...g.hm wrote:
> >> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> >>
> >>> Andrew Morton wrote:
> ..
> >> 8. hibernate kernel does syspend-to-ram to put the devices into a known 
> >> safe state.
> > Again, the devices should be quiesced rather then suspended in this step.
> 
> That's just not possible.  The Hibernate kernel will not have all
> of the same device drivers as the mainline kernel.  Or at least that's
> what people have previously stated here.

OK, one more problem to solve. :-)

> >>>>  This sounds awesome.  Am I correct in expecting that ultimately the
> >>>>  existing hibernation implementation just goes away and we reuse (and hence
> >>>>  strengthen) the existing kexec (and kdump?) infrastructure?
> 
> No, not so simple.  We still need much of the code to santize devices
> upon wakeup from hibernation.   And adding this extra reboot-kernel step
> in the midst of hibernate will double the time it takes (ugh).
> 
> Currently, TuxOnIce(suspend2) takes about 10 seconds to suspend my notebook.
> Switching to this new scheme would double that to 10 seconds to boot/probe,
> plus the original 10 seconds to hibernate.  Assuming the new implementation
> even comes close to suspend2 speed.

How much RAM is there in your machine?

Greetings,
Rafael


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