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Message-Id: <1184330583.23373.65.camel@Gundam>
Date:	Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:43:03 +0800
From:	Li Yang <leoli@...escale.com>
To:	Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net>
Cc:	Gerrit Huizenga <gh@...ibm.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	"Kunai, Takashi" <kunai@...ux-foundation.jp>,
	holzheu@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	lf_kernel_messages@...ux-foundation.org, mtk-manpages@....net,
	jack@...e.cz, randy.dunlap@...cle.com, gregkh@...e.de,
	pavel@....cz, tim.bird@...sony.com, arjan@...radead.org,
	sam@...nborg.org, jengelh@...putergmbh.de, joe@...ches.com,
	auke-jan.h.kok@...el.com, hansendc@...ibm.com, davem@...emloft.net,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu, kenistoj@...ibm.com,
	schwidefsky@...ibm.com, heiko.carstens@...ibm.com,
	linux-doc@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 12:05 -0400, Rob Landley wrote:
> Proposed patch adding Li Yang to MAINTAINERS, and Documentation
> describing what a language maintainer is.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net>

Signed-off-by: Li Yang <leo@...kernel.org>
> 
> --
> 
> On Thursday 12 July 2007 9:53:54 am Li Yang-r58472 wrote:
> 
> > > > I'm trying to establish.
> > >
> > > A list works fine as a point of contact.  I note that in general,
> > maintainers
> > > are individuals (who delegate like mad, of course), because otherwise
> > agenda
> > > items languish with everyone thinking it's someone else's
> > responsibility.
> >
> > Got it.  I can do it as long as it doesn't consume too much time.  :)
> 
> Woot!  See attached patch and sign-off-by if you want the job. :)
> 
> The bit about "the maintainer forwards, not the list" is a suggestion to
> prevent duplicates.  It doesn't mean you can't delegate, just that if it's
> open season on the list translating stuff _and_ forwarding it, then
> linux-kernel will get dupes.  (Plus other maintainers are more likely
> to pay attention to somebody they've heard from before.)
> 
> Greg KH had entire an OLS presentation about how the developer ->
> maintainer -> subsystem -> anderew+linus forwarding is more
> an ideal than a reality, but at least it gives us a frame of reference
> to diverge from:
> http://lwn.net/Articles/240402/
> 
> diff -r edfd2d6f670d MAINTAINERS
> --- a/MAINTAINERS	Tue Jul 10 17:51:13 2007 -0700
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS	Thu Jul 12 11:51:19 2007 -0400
> @@ -2146,6 +2146,13 @@ W:	http://auxdisplay.googlepages.com/
>  W:	http://auxdisplay.googlepages.com/
>  S:	Maintained
>  
> +LANGUAGE (CHINESE)
> +P:	Li Yang
> +M:	LeoLi@...escale.com
> +L:	linux-kernel@...kernel.org
> +W:	http://zh-kernel.org
> +S:	Maintained
> +
>  LAPB module
>  L:	linux-x25@...r.kernel.org
>  S:	Orphan
> --- /dev/null	2007-04-23 11:59:00.000000000 -0400
> +++ linux-2.6/Documentation/language-maintainers.txt	2007-07-12 11:49:20.000000000 -0400
> @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@
> +The langauges in which the Linux kernel is developed are C and English.
> +(Note that Linus Torvalds' native language is Swedish, yet he chose
> +to hold technical discussions in English.)
> +
> +The job of a language maintainer is to provide a point of contact for
> +non-english speaking developers who wish to merge their patches into the
> +Linux kernel.  Each language needs a specific language maintainer, who
> +accepts non-english patch submissions on behalf of the Linux kernel.
> +
> +A language maintainer accepts patches to the Linux kernel, written in C, from
> +authors who do not also speak English.  The language maintainer translates the
> +description of each patch into English, forwards the patches to linux-kernel
> +and to the appropriate maintainers for inclusion in the Linux kernel, and
> +translates questions and replies about such patches as part of the
> +patch review process.

In addiction to this responsibility, I would like to add two more which,
in my opinion, are more important.  And these are what I'm trying to
do.  :)
First, promoting contribution to Linux kernel in local language.
Second, coordinate the translation effort of key kernel documents.

> +
> +Some language maintainers provide a mailing list as a point of contact, to
> +distribute the translation work, but the maintainer is still the person who
> +ultimately forwards the results (to prevent duplicates), and the one to contact
> +if patches and questions don't get translated and forwarded in a timely fashion.
> 

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