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Date:	Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:56:20 -0700 (PDT)
From:	david@...g.hm
To:	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>
cc:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	Jim Crilly <jim@....dont.jablowme.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>,
	Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@....edu>,
	Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@....com>,
	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@...el.suspend2.net>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	pm list <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Boldi <a1426z@...ab.com>
Subject: Re: Hibernation considerations

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 08:54:24PM -0700, david@...g.hm wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 08:19:32AM -0700, david@...g.hm wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>>>> Powering off rather than using S4 means you lose most wakeup device
>>>>> support. That would be a functional regression compared to the current
>>>>> code.
>>>>
>>>> only if the kexec isn't able to initialize those devices.
>>>
>>> If you aren't using ACPI, you probably don't know how to.
>>
>> the current kexec patch to allow you to move back to the original kernel
>> requires ACPI be disabled to work.
>
> Which means it isn't putting the hardware into S4, which means that you
> don't get the platform wakeup events.

Ok, I was misunderstanding what you meant by wakeup device support. if you 
are meaning things like wake-on-lan then yes, you do loose that with no 
ACPI support, but that is acceptable to many people. I understand it's not 
for some, and I'm not saying that this should be the only type of suspend, 
but I'm also saying that this should be one option.

David Lang
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