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Message-ID: <20070901172301.GA4275@ucw.cz>
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:23:02 +0000
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@...-lyon.org>,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>,
linux-input@...ey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
akpm@...ux-foundation.org, dtor@...l.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility
Hi!
> > > Because userland only begins quite late in the boot process, and
> > > userland may hang.
> >
> > Initrd means userland is started very early on most machines these
> > days, and kernel may hang, too.
>
> Very early is not so early, and loading initrd itself may actually fail.
> The kernel may indeed hang, but there are more chances to get some
> messages before the hang. Don't _you_ have a VGA screen for getting
> earliest failure messages from the kernel?
No. I'm using framebuffer, that's initialized quite late in boot
process. Plus many users just use bootsplash. I do use vga mode for
heavy debugging, but that's quite unusual.
So... you actually have speech-enabled grub/lilo/something?
Pavel
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