linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

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Message-ID: <20070901173329.GB12644@implementation>
Date:	Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:33:29 +0200
From:	Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@...-lyon.org>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>,
	linux-input@...ey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, dtor@...l.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

Hi,

Pavel Machek, le Sat 01 Sep 2007 17:23:02 +0000, a écrit :
> Hi!
> 
> > > > Because userland only begins quite late in the boot process, and
> > > > userland may hang.
> > > 
> > > Initrd means userland is started very early on most machines these
> > > days, and kernel may hang, too.
> > 
> > Very early is not so early, and loading initrd itself may actually fail.
> > The kernel may indeed hang, but there are more chances to get some
> > messages before the hang.  Don't _you_ have a VGA screen for getting
> > earliest failure messages from the kernel?
> 
> No. I'm using framebuffer, that's initialized quite late in boot
> process. Plus many users just use bootsplash. I do use vga mode for
> heavy debugging, but that's quite unusual.

But that's what some people do for their work, so they need it.

> So... you actually have speech-enabled grub/lilo/something?

That's in project too (and there's no reason it shouldn't be done).

Samuel
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