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Message-ID: <20070901181845.GA4839@ucw.cz>
Date:	Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:18:45 +0000
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@...-lyon.org>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>,
	linux-input@...ey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, dtor@...l.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

Hi!

> > > Very early is not so early, and loading initrd itself may actually fail.
> > > The kernel may indeed hang, but there are more chances to get some
> > > messages before the hang.  Don't _you_ have a VGA screen for getting
> > > earliest failure messages from the kernel?
> > 
> > No. I'm using framebuffer, that's initialized quite late in boot
> > process. Plus many users just use bootsplash. I do use vga mode for
> > heavy debugging, but that's quite unusual.
> 
> But that's what some people do for their work, so they need it.

How many such users are out there?

> > So... you actually have speech-enabled grub/lilo/something?
> 
> That's in project too (and there's no reason it shouldn't be done).

I'd say kernel debugging is hard without accessible bootloader, so I'd
hope number of such users is very low.
							Pavel
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