linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

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Message-ID: <20070901193652.GD12644@implementation>
Date:	Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:36:52 +0200
From:	Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@...-lyon.org>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>,
	linux-input@...ey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, dtor@...l.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

Pavel Machek, le Sat 01 Sep 2007 18:18:45 +0000, a écrit :
> > > > Very early is not so early, and loading initrd itself may actually fail.
> > > > The kernel may indeed hang, but there are more chances to get some
> > > > messages before the hang.  Don't _you_ have a VGA screen for getting
> > > > earliest failure messages from the kernel?
> > > 
> > > No. I'm using framebuffer, that's initialized quite late in boot
> > > process. Plus many users just use bootsplash. I do use vga mode for
> > > heavy debugging, but that's quite unusual.
> > 
> > But that's what some people do for their work, so they need it.
> 
> How many such users are out there?

You know that it's a question that just can't be answered.  There are
such people, and their employment depend on this.

> > > So... you actually have speech-enabled grub/lilo/something?
> > 
> > That's in project too (and there's no reason it shouldn't be done).
> 
> I'd say kernel debugging is hard without accessible bootloader

A bootloader with only two entries is not so difficult to use blindly.

Samuel
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