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Message-Id: <20070929131443.536abb94.randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
Date:	Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:14:43 -0700
From:	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>
To:	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Erez Zadok <ezk@...sunysb.edu>, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 0/3 coding standards documentation/code updates

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:56:38 -0400 J. Bruce Fields wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 11:18:05AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > I'm not very happy with this.
> > 
> > "CodingStyle" should be about the big issues, not about details. Yes, 
> > we've messed that up over the years, but let's not continue that.
> > 
> > In other words, I'd suggest *removing* lines from CodingStyle, not adding 
> > them. The file has already gone from a "good general principles" to "lots 
> > of stupid details". Let's not make it worse.
> 
> It'd be nice to split the current CodingStyle into two documents:

I agree.  This is just what I was thinking during lunch.

> 	- A shorter CodingStyle that gives the spirit of the style
> 	  (short functions, minimal nesting, logic as straightforward as
> 	  possible, etc.), and addresses the most commonly repeated
> 	  mistakes, without so much detail that people's eyes glaze
> 	  over.  You want to be able to recommend it to your students
> 	  (or whoever) in reasonable confidence that they'll actually
> 	  read it and have fun (leave the jokes in!).  Currently I'm
> 	  suspicious that it's becoming something that everybody
> 	  recommends but noone bothers to sit down and read anymore
> 	  unless they're working on it.
> 
> 	- A CodingStyleReference that's just a long dry list of rules,
> 	  organized to make it easy to look up an individual rule when
> 	  needed.  That'd also take the pressure of CodingStyle to
> 	  accept every new detail.
> 
> It'd be a start just to revert CodingStyle to its original content and
> move the rest to CodingStyleReference.  But someone would want to skim
> through the CodingStyle history for any legimate corrections that we
> want to keep.

---
~Randy
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