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Message-ID: <m18x6d1g08.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
Date:	Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:57:27 -0600
From:	ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:	casey@...aufler-ca.com
Cc:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>,
	Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@....com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Bill Davidsen <davidsen@....com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@...ho.nsa.gov>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandatory Access Control Kernel

Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com> writes:

> --- "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com> wrote:
>
>> It really seems to me that the LSM as currently structured creates
>> a large barrier to entry for people who have just this little thing
>> they want to do that is not possible with any existing security
>> module.
>
> I honestly think that the barrier has been more political
> in nature than technical. I don't know how long you've been
> watching, but no attempt to get an LSM upstream has escaped
> exagerated cricism from certain factions. Only someone who wants
> to get cut to metaphorical ribbons would submit a little LSM.
> Maybe that will get better now. I sure hope so.

Yes.  Me to.  I certainly agree about the political part.

My only hope was to suggest something that my reduce what there is to
get political about.

Eric
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