lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <4714DBD7.7080706@zytor.com>
Date:	Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:42:15 -0700
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@...ax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
CC:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: LFENCE instruction

Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> 
>> Mikulas Patocka wrote:
>>> I know about unordered stores (movnti & similar) --- they basically use
>>> write-combining method on memory that is normally write-back --- and they
>>> need sfence. But which one instruction does unordered load and needs
>>> lefence?
>>>
>> PREFETCHNTA.
> 
> PREFETCH* doesn't change program semantics. The processor is allowed to 
> ignore prefetch instruction if it doesn't have resources needed for 
> prefetch. It not ordered wrt. fences.
> 
> PREFETCHNTA was implemented as prefetch into L1 cache and omitting L2 
> cache on Pentium 3 and M --- and it is implemented as prefetch into L2 
> cache on other --- do it doesn't really use any special buffers.
> 

It's semantics allows it to, though.  It's not clear to me whether it is 
actually necessary on existing chips.

It does, I believe, way-restricted prefetch on existing silicon.

	-hpa
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ