lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:25:23 +0200 (CEST)
From:	Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@...ax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
cc:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: LFENCE instruction

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:

> Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > 
> > PREFETCH* doesn't change program semantics. The processor is allowed to
> > ignore prefetch instruction if it doesn't have resources needed for
> > prefetch. It not ordered wrt. fences.
> > 
> > PREFETCHNTA was implemented as prefetch into L1 cache and omitting L2 cache
> > on Pentium 3 and M --- and it is implemented as prefetch into L2 cache on
> > other --- do it doesn't really use any special buffers.
> > 
> 
> It's semantics allows it to, though.  It's not clear to me whether it is
> actually necessary on existing chips.
> 
> It does, I believe, way-restricted prefetch on existing silicon.

It is allowed to use special buffers for prefetch, but --- because 
prefetch doesn't change program semantics, these special buffers must be 
kept consistent just like caches --- they must be snooped for bus 
transactions and they must be checked each time something writes to cache.

So I doubt anyone will ever implement it this way --- it's too much 
silicon for too little effect.

Mikulas

> 	-hpa
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ