linux-kernel - RE: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)

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Message-ID: <008101c81993$301f1750$905d45f0$@com>
Date:	Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:48:47 -0700
From:	"Hua Zhong" <hzhong@...il.com>
To:	"'Pavel Machek'" <pavel@....cz>, "'Ray Lee'" <ray-lk@...rabbit.org>
Cc:	"'Alan Cox'" <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"'Chris Wright'" <chrisw@...s-sol.org>,
	"'Casey Schaufler'" <casey@...aufler-ca.com>,
	"'Adrian Bunk'" <bunk@...nel.org>,
	"'Simon Arlott'" <simon@...e.lp0.eu>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	<linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
	"'Jan Engelhardt'" <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>,
	"'Linus Torvalds'" <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"'Andreas Gruenbacher'" <agruen@...e.de>,
	"'Thomas Fricaccia'" <thomas_fricacci@...oo.com>,
	"'Jeremy Fitzhardinge'" <jeremy@...p.org>,
	"'James Morris'" <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	"'Crispin Cowan'" <crispin@...spincowan.com>,
	"'Giacomo Catenazzi'" <cate@...ian.org>
Subject: RE: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)



> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-kernel-owner@...r.kernel.org [mailto:linux-kernel-
> owner@...r.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Pavel Machek
> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:29 AM
> To: Ray Lee
> Cc: Alan Cox; Chris Wright; Casey Schaufler; Adrian Bunk; Simon Arlott;
> linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org;
> Jan Engelhardt; Linus Torvalds; Andreas Gruenbacher; Thomas Fricaccia;
> Jeremy Fitzhardinge; James Morris; Crispin Cowan; Giacomo Catenazzi
> Subject: Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to
> static interface)
> 
> Hi!
> 
> > > > The idea that poor security is worse than no security is
> fallacious,
> > > > and not backed up by common experience.
> > >
> > > There is a ton of evidence both in computing and outside of it
> which
> > > shows that poor security can be very much worse than no security at
> all.
> >
> > (So, I take it that you *don't* lock your bike up, as poor security
> is
> > worse than none?)
> 
> I do lock my bike with combination lock I found somewhere and cracked
> in five minutes... sometimes.
> 
> But do you suggest that I use paper tape to 'lock' my bike to
> streetlight? You just said that poor security is better than none,
> right?
> 
> 							Pavel
> --
> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
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> http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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