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Message-ID: <20071114201639.GA17182@elte.hu>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:39 +0100
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, protasnb@...il.com,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
alsa-devel@...a-project.org, linux-ide@...r.kernel.org,
linux-pcmcia@...ts.infradead.org,
linux-input@...ey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
bugme-daemon@...zilla.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs
* Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> >
> > * Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > (and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds
> > > > for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the
> > > > separate netdev list is a bad idea - networking regressions should
> > > > be discussed and fixed on lkml, like most other subsystems are. Any
> > > > artificial split of the lk discussion space is bad.)
> > >
> > > but here I disagree. LKML is already too busy and noisy. Major
> > > subsystems need their own discussion areas.
> >
> > That's a stupid argument. We lose much more by forced isolation of
> > discussion than what we win by having less traffic! It's _MUCH_
^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > easier to narrow down information (by filter by threads, by topics,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > by people, etc.) than it is to gobble information together from
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > various fractured sources. We learned it _again and again_ that
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > isolation of kernel discussions causes bad things.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on
> > netdev some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had
> > it been all on lkml we'd all be aware of it.
>
> or had <someone> been on netdev.
countered by the underlined sentences above, just in case you missed it.
Ingo
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