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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0711270835380.21411@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:37:37 -0500 (EST)
From:	"Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@...shcourse.ca>
To:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>
cc:	Ray Lee <ray-lk@...rabbit.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: can support for "rpm"-based package building just be dropped?

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

>
> On Nov 26 2007 11:13, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >> >>>Only on current machines. You'd break building kernel RPMs on older
> >> >>>systems that don't have rpmbuild installed.
> >> >>
> >> >> Those old machines probably do not even run a distro-fabricated
> >> >> gcc that would compile a git head kernel.
> >> >
> >> >well, in a nutshell, the problem scenario is that it's entirely
> >> >possible to have a modern distro (say, fedora 8, like i'm using) on
> >> >which you have the latest "rpm" package installed, but not
> >> >"rpmbuild".
> >>
> >> What, modern and no rpmbuild?
> >
> >i didn't say it *wouldn't* have rpmbuild, i said it *might not*.
> >at the moment, on my f8 system, the only package that requires the
> >rpm-build package is rpmdevtools, and it's entirely possible that
> >there's no need for *that* package.
>
> rpm -b does not work in opensuse anymore (redirects you to use
> rpmbuild), and I bet fedora will do the same, so if you don't have
> rpm-build, tough luck for make rpm.

i know that that's the case *now*, but we're considering the
possibility that someone is using an older system on which "rpm" is
*still* the builder.  in the end, all i'm suggesting is that the build
should work under all possible scenarios.

rday

p.s.  i'm not *trying* to make this issue more obfuscated or
convoluted than it has to be -- i am merely succeeding.

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Robert P. J. Day
Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry
Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

http://crashcourse.ca
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