lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20071127190037.GB30057@redhat.com>
Date:	Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:00:37 -0500
From:	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>
To:	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Roland Dreier <rdreier@...co.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	sam@...nborg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] [1/9] Core module symbol namespaces code and intro.

On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 10:25:33AM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
 
 > 1) Why is everyone so concerned that export symbol space is large?
 > 	- does it cost cpu or running memory?
 > 	- does it cause bugs?
 > 	- or are you just worried about "evil modules"?

To clarify something here, by "evil", don't necessarily think "binary only". 

Out of tree modules are frequently using symbols that they shouldn't be.
Because they get no peer-review here, they 'get away with it' for the most part.
Until distro vendors push rebased kernel updates that removed exports that
should never have been exported, and suddenly people like me get bombed
with "Fedora broke my xyz driver" mails.

Reducing the opportunity for people to screw things up is a good thing.
If a symbol is exported, most out-of-tree driver authors seem to
think its "fair game" to use it.

	Dave

-- 
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ