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Message-ID: <2c0942db0712030902l16784fa3o43fca831aea2dfcc@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:02:05 -0800
From:	"Ray Lee" <ray-lk@...rabbit.org>
To:	"Andi Kleen" <andi@...stfloor.org>
Cc:	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@...e.hu>,
	"Radoslaw Szkodzinski" <lkml@...ralstorm.puszkin.org>,
	"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@...radead.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [feature] automatically detect hung TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE tasks

On Dec 3, 2007 6:17 AM, Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org> wrote:
> That won't address my concerns about already "breaking" (as in
> frightening the user etc.) common error handling scenarios by default.

Andi, may I respectfully submit that you're not understanding real users here?

Real users either:
  -  Never look at their syslog
  -  Or look, and aren't terribly scared by what's in there.

Perhaps I'm wrong, and you can point to a message on lkml where
someone has posted a backtrace with fear in their voice.
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