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Message-Id: <20071208022001.155e0c52.akpm@linux-foundation.org> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 02:20:01 -0800 From: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> To: Andreas Mohr <andi@...as.de> Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, linux-ide@...r.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <htejun@...il.com>, Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>, linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23 On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:12:57 +0100 Andreas Mohr <andi@...as.de> wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 01:36:31AM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > Subject : PATA scan: ACPI Exception AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT... is beyond end of object > > > Submitter : Hans de Bruin <bruinjm@...all.nl> > > > References : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9320 > > > Handled-By : Robert Moore <Robert.Moore@...el.com> > > > Tejun Heo <htejun@...il.com> > > > Fu Michael <michael.fu@...el.com> > > > Patch : > > > > > > > A number of other people are seeing the same thing and Tejun is putting in > > a blacklist of machines which cannot use libata+acpi. That patch is not > > yet in any git tree which I pull. > > > > AFACIT the machines kepe working OK - there's just some nasty dmesg spew. > > > > If any machines _are_ breaking then this could cause real problems and I'd > > prefer that we either go for a whitelist or arrange to detect the condition > > and fall back to non-acpi ata. > > Does this report now win me the lucky draw, pretty please? ;) nah, you have to cc the acpi guys to get a prize ;) Len&co, could you please take a look? Andreas, please do separately report that WOL problem too.. Our list just reached 30. > STD regression rc1 -> rc234, suspend fails completely, recovering is > pretty much useless since HDD is DEAD from this point on anyway. > Managed to capture -rc2 suspend logging via still-alive ssh session. > > 2.6.24-rc1 suspend/resume log, successful (well, a couple seconds delay, most likely due to > well-recovered AML failure): > > swsusp: Marking nosave pages: 000000000009f000 - 0000000000100000 > swsusp: Basic memory bitmaps created > Syncing filesystems ... done. > Freezing user space processes ... (elapsed 0.00 seconds) done. > Freezing remaining freezable tasks ... (elapsed 0.00 seconds) done. > Shrinking memory... done (0 pages freed) > Freed 0 kbytes in 0.02 seconds (0.00 MB/s) > Suspending console(s) > hub 4-0:1.0: hub_suspend > usb usb4: bus suspend > ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: suspend root hub > hub 3-0:1.0: hub_suspend > usb usb3: bus suspend > usb usb3: suspend_rh > hub 2-0:1.0: hub_suspend > usb usb2: bus suspend > usb usb2: suspend_rh > hub 1-0:1.0: hub_suspend > usb usb1: bus suspend > usb usb1: suspend_rh > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Synchronizing SCSI cache > parport_pc 00:09: disabled > serial 00:08: disabled > serial 00:07: disabled > ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:11.5 disabled > ACPI handle has no context! > ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:11.1 disabled > ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:10.3 disabled > ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: --> PCI D3/wakeup > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: uhci_suspend > ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:10.2 disabled > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: --> PCI D3 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: uhci_suspend > ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:10.1 disabled > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: --> PCI D3 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: uhci_suspend > ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:10.0 disabled > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: --> PCI D3 > ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:0d.0 disabled > ACPI handle has no context! > ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:0c.0 disabled > ACPI handle has no context! > pci_set_power_state(): 0000:00:00.0: state=3, current state=5 > swsusp: critical section: > swsusp: Need to copy 51195 pages > Intel machine check architecture supported. > Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. > evxfevnt-0079 [00] enable : System is already in ACPI mode > ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKA] BIOS reported IRQ 0, using IRQ 20 > ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKB] BIOS reported IRQ 0, using IRQ 21 > ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKC] BIOS reported IRQ 0, using IRQ 22 > ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKD] BIOS reported IRQ 0, using IRQ 23 > evxfevnt-0079 [00] enable : System is already in ACPI mode > ACPI: Unable to turn cooling device [c180ff60] 'off' > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:01.0 to 64 > ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.0 (PCI): IRQ=[19] MMIO=[db140000-db1407ff] Max Packet=[2048] IR/IT contexts=[4/8] > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0a.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18 > e100: eth-intel: e100_watchdog: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex > PM: Writing back config space on device 0000:00:0d.0 at offset 1 (was 2100007, writing 2100003) > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0d.0[A] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 22 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: PCI D0, from previous PCI D3 > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.0[A] -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 20 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: uhci_resume > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: uhci_check_and_reset_hc: cmd = 0x0000 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: Performing full reset > usb usb1: root hub lost power or was reset > usb usb1: suspend_rh > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: PCI D0, from previous PCI D3 > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.1[B] -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 20 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: uhci_resume > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: uhci_check_and_reset_hc: cmd = 0x0000 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: Performing full reset > usb usb2: root hub lost power or was reset > usb usb2: suspend_rh > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: PCI D0, from previous PCI D3 > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.2[C] -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 20 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: uhci_resume > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: uhci_check_and_reset_hc: cmd = 0x0000 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: Performing full reset > usb usb3: root hub lost power or was reset > usb usb3: suspend_rh > ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: PCI D0, from previous PCI D3 > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.3[D] -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 20 > PM: Writing back config space on device 0000:00:10.3 at offset 3 (was 2008, writing 2010) > PM: Writing back config space on device 0000:00:10.3 at offset 1 (was 2100007, writing 2100017) > PM: Writing back config space on device 0000:00:11.1 at offset 1 (was 2900003, writing 2900007) > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:11.1[A] -> Link [ALKA] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:11.5[C] -> Link [ALKC] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 23 > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:11.5 to 64 > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 > serial 00:07: activated > serial 00:08: activated > parport_pc 00:09: activated > i8042 aux 00:0a: activation failed > i8042 kbd 00:0b: activation failed > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk > ACPI Exception (exoparg2-0442): AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT, Index (0FFFFFFFF) is beyond end of object [20070126] > ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.GTF_] (Node c180b990), AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT > ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.CHN0.DRV1._GTF] (Node c180b888), AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT > ata1.01: _GTF evaluation failed (AE 0x300d) > ata1.01: revalidation failed (errno=-5) > ata1: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs > ACPI Exception (exoparg2-0442): AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT, Index (0FFFFFFFF) is beyond end of object [20070126] > ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.GTF_] (Node c180b990), AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT > ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.CHN0.DRV1._GTF] (Node c180b888), AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT > ata1.01: _GTF evaluation failed (AE 0x300d) > ata1.01: ACPI on devcfg failed the second time, disabling (errno=-5) > ata1.01: revalidation failed (errno=1) > ata1: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs > ACPI Exception (exoparg2-0442): AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT, Index (0FFFFFFFF) is beyond end of object [20070126] > ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.GTF_] (Node c180b990), AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT > ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.CHN0.DRV0._GTF] (Node c180b840), AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT > ata1.00: _GTF evaluation failed (AE 0x300d) > ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5) > ata1: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs > ACPI Exception (exoparg2-0442): AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT, Index (0FFFFFFFF) is beyond end of object [20070126] > ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.GTF_] (Node c180b990), AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT > ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.CHN0.DRV0._GTF] (Node c180b840), AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT > ata1.00: _GTF evaluation failed (AE 0x300d) > ata1.00: ACPI on devcfg failed the second time, disabling (errno=-5) > ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=1) > ata1: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs > ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100 > ata1.01: configured for UDMA/33 > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 234441648 512-byte hardware sectors (120034 MB) > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 234441648 512-byte hardware sectors (120034 MB) > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA > usb usb1: usb resume > usb usb1: wakeup_rh > hub 1-0:1.0: trying to enable port power on non-switchable hub > usb usb2: usb resume > usb usb2: wakeup_rh > hub 2-0:1.0: trying to enable port power on non-switchable hub > usb usb3: usb resume > usb usb3: wakeup_rh > hub 3-0:1.0: trying to enable port power on non-switchable hub > usb usb4: usb resume > ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: resume root hub > hub 4-0:1.0: hub_resume > Restarting tasks ... <7>hub 1-0:1.0: state 7 ports 2 chg 0000 evt 0006 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: port 1 portsc 018a,00 > hub 1-0:1.0: port 1, status 0300, change 0003, 1.5 Mb/s > done. > swsusp: Basic memory bitmaps freed > hub 1-0:1.0: debounce: port 1: total 100ms stable 100ms status 0x300 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: port 2 portsc 008a,00 > hub 1-0:1.0: port 2, status 0100, change 0003, 12 Mb/s > hub 1-0:1.0: debounce: port 2: total 100ms stable 100ms status 0x100 > hub 2-0:1.0: state 7 ports 2 chg 0000 evt 0006 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: port 1 portsc 018a,00 > hub 2-0:1.0: port 1, status 0300, change 0003, 1.5 Mb/s > hub 2-0:1.0: debounce: port 1: total 100ms stable 100ms status 0x300 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: port 2 portsc 008a,00 > hub 2-0:1.0: port 2, status 0100, change 0003, 12 Mb/s > hub 2-0:1.0: debounce: port 2: total 100ms stable 100ms status 0x100 > hub 3-0:1.0: state 7 ports 2 chg 0000 evt 0006 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: port 1 portsc 008a,00 > hub 3-0:1.0: port 1, status 0100, change 0003, 12 Mb/s > hub 3-0:1.0: debounce: port 1: total 100ms stable 100ms status 0x100 > uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: port 2 portsc 008a,00 > hub 3-0:1.0: port 2, status 0100, change 0003, 12 Mb/s > hub 3-0:1.0: debounce: port 2: total 100ms stable 100ms status 0x100 > hub 4-0:1.0: state 7 ports 6 chg 0000 evt 0000 > hub 1-0:1.0: state 7 ports 2 chg 0000 evt 0000 > hub 2-0:1.0: state 7 ports 2 chg 0000 evt 0000 > hub 3-0:1.0: state 7 ports 2 chg 0000 evt 0000 > usb usb1: suspend_rh (auto-stop) > usb usb2: suspend_rh (auto-stop) > usb usb3: suspend_rh (auto-stop) > agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. > agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode > agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode > [drm] Loading R200 Microcode > > > > 2.6.24-rc2 suspend log (one screenful), UNSUCCESSFUL: > > serial 00:07: disabled > ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:11.5 disabled > ACPI Exception (exoparg2-0442): AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT, Index (0FFFFFFFF) is beyond end of object [20070126] > ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.GTM_] > (Node c180b9a8), AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT > ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.CHN1._GTM] (Node c180b8d0), AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT > ata2: ACPI get timing mode failed (AE 0x300d) > pci_device_suspend(): ata_pci_device_suspend+0x0/0x40() returns -22 > suspend_device(): pci_device_suspend+0x0/0x70() returns -22 > Could not suspend device 0000:00:11.1: error -22 > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:11.5[C] -> Link [ALKC] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 23 > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 > serial 00:07: activated > serial 00:08: activated > parport_pc 00:09: activated > i8042 aux 00:0a: activation failed > i8042 kbd 00:0b: activation failed > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk > sd 0:0:0:0: timing out command, waited 180s > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] START_STOP FAILED > sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK > Restarting tasks ... <7>hub 1-0:1.0: state 7 ports 6 chg 0000 evt 0000 > done. > swsusp: Basic memory bitmaps freed > swsusp: Marking nosave pages: 000000000009f000 - 0000000000100000 > swsusp: Basic memory bitmaps created > Syncing filesystems ... > > > > # lspci > 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333] > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP] > 00:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 46) > 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Aureal Semiconductor Vortex 2 (rev fe) > 00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 08) > 00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Aztech System Ltd 3328 Audio (rev 10) > 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80) > 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80) > 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80) > 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82) > 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge > 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) > 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) > 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] (rev 01) > 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Radeon 9000] (Secondary) (rev 01) > > > # dmidecode 2.9 > SMBIOS 2.2 present. > 39 structures occupying 1035 bytes. > Table at 0x000F0800. > > Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 19 bytes > BIOS Information > Vendor: Award Software International, Inc. > Version: 6.00 PG > Release Date: 09/16/2003 > Address: 0xE0000 > Runtime Size: 128 kB > ROM Size: 512 kB > Characteristics: > ISA is supported > PCI is supported > PNP is supported > APM is supported > BIOS is upgradeable > BIOS shadowing is allowed > ESCD support is available > Boot from CD is supported > Selectable boot is supported > BIOS ROM is socketed > EDD is supported > 5.25"/360 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h) > 5.25"/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h) > 3.5"/720 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h) > 3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h) > Print screen service is supported (int 5h) > 8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h) > Serial services are supported (int 14h) > Printer services are supported (int 17h) > CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h) > ACPI is supported > USB legacy is supported > AGP is supported > LS-120 boot is supported > ATAPI Zip drive boot is supported > > Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 25 bytes > System Information > Manufacturer: VIA Technologies, Inc. > Product Name: VT8367-8235 > Version: > Serial Number: > UUID: Not Present > Wake-up Type: Power Switch > > Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 8 bytes > Base Board Information > Manufacturer: > Product Name: VT8367-8235 > Version: > Serial Number: > > Handle 0x0003, DMI type 3, 13 bytes > Chassis Information > Manufacturer: > Type: Desktop > Lock: Not Present > Version: > Serial Number: > Asset Tag: > Boot-up State: Unknown > Power Supply State: Unknown > Thermal State: Unknown > Security Status: Unknown > > Handle 0x0004, DMI type 4, 32 bytes > Processor Information > Socket Designation: Socket A > Type: Central Processor > Family: Duron > Manufacturer: AMD > ID: 81 06 00 00 FF FB 83 03 > Signature: Family 6, Model 8, Stepping 1 > Flags: > FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip) > VME (Virtual mode extension) > DE (Debugging extension) > PSE (Page size extension) > TSC (Time stamp counter) > MSR (Model specific registers) > PAE (Physical address extension) > MCE (Machine check exception) > CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported) > APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported) > SEP (Fast system call) > MTRR (Memory type range registers) > PGE (Page global enable) > MCA (Machine check architecture) > CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported) > PAT (Page attribute table) > PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension) > MMX (MMX technology supported) > FXSR (Fast floating-point save and restore) > SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions) > Version: AMD K7 processor > Voltage: 3.3 V > External Clock: 133 MHz > Max Speed: 1500 MHz > Current Speed: 1200 MHz > Status: Populated, Enabled > Upgrade: ZIF Socket > L1 Cache Handle: 0x000A > L2 Cache Handle: 0x000B > L3 Cache Handle: No L3 Cache > > Handle 0x0005, DMI type 5, 24 bytes > Memory Controller Information > Error Detecting Method: None > Error Correcting Capabilities: > None > Supported Interleave: One-way Interleave > Current Interleave: Four-way Interleave > Maximum Memory Module Size: 32 MB > Maximum Total Memory Size: 128 MB > Supported Speeds: > 70 ns > 60 ns > Supported Memory Types: > Standard > EDO > Memory Module Voltage: 5.0 V > Associated Memory Slots: 4 > 0x0006 > 0x0007 > 0x0008 > 0x0009 > Enabled Error Correcting Capabilities: None > > . > . > . > > > # hdparm -i /dev/sda > > /dev/sda: > > Model=WDC WD1200JB-00CRA1 , FwRev=17.07W17, SerialNo=WD-WCA8C4285629 > Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR>5Mbs FmtGapReq } > RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=57600, SectSize=600, ECCbytes=40 > BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=8192kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=?16? > CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=234441648 > IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120} > PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 > DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 > UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5 > AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled > Drive conforms to: Unspecified: ATA/ATAPI-1,2,3,4,5 > > * signifies the current active mode > > > > Athlon on EPOX 8K5A2+ board. > > > > Again, 2.6.23 and 2.6.24-rc1 work, yet 2.6.24 -rc2, -rc3 and -rc4 FAIL. > > Probably won't be able to do any reporting over the weekend (WOL is > inoperable ATM for some weird reason), let me know what you need. > Took too much time to gather this report already anyway ;) > > Thanks, > > Andreas Mohr -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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