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Date:	Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:40:16 +1100
From:	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>
To:	Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	"Siddha, Suresh B" <suresh.b.siddha@...el.com>,
	Ken Chen <kenchen@...gle.com>,
	Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@...il.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>, tony.luck@...el.com,
	Adam Litke <agl@...ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc] lockless get_user_pages for dio (and more)

On Wednesday 12 December 2007 16:11, Dave Kleikamp wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 15:57 +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 11 December 2007 08:30, Dave Kleikamp wrote:
> > > Nick,
> > > I've played with the fast_gup patch a bit.  I was able to find a
> > > problem in follow_hugetlb_page() that Adam Litke fixed.  I'm haven't
> > > been brave enough to implement it on any other architectures, but I did
> > > add  a default that takes mmap_sem and calls the normal
> > > get_user_pages() if the architecture doesn't define fast_gup().  I put
> > > it in linux/mm.h, for lack of a better place, but it's a little kludgy
> > > since I didn't want mm.h to have to include sched.h.  This patch is
> > > against 2.6.24-rc4. It's not ready for inclusion yet, of course.
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Thanks so much. This makes it much more a complete patch (although
> > still missing the "normal page" detection).
> >
> > I think I missed -- or forgot -- what was the follow_hugetlb_page
> > problem?
>
> Badari found a problem running some tests and handed it off to me to
> look at.  I didn't share it publicly.  Anyway, we were finding that
> fastgup was taking the slow path almost all the time with huge pages.
> The problem was that follow_hugetlb_page was failing to fault on a
> non-writable page when it needed a writable one.  So we'd keep seeing a
> non-writable page over and over.  This is fixed in 2.6.24-rc5.

Ah yes, I just saw that fix in the changelog. So not a problem with my
patch as such, but good to get that fixed.


> > Anyway, I am hoping that someone will one day and test if this and
> > find it helps their workload, but on the other hand, if it doesn't
> > help anyone then we don't have to worry about adding it to the
> > kernel ;) I don't have any real setups that hammers DIO with threads.
> > I'm guessing DB2 and/or Oracle does?
>
> I'll try to get someone to run a DB2 benchmark and see what it looks
> like.

That would be great if you could.

Thanks,
Nick
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