linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] badness() dramatically overcounts memory

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <47A7E282.1080902@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:43:54 +0530
From:	Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Jeff Davis <linux@...avis.com>
CC:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] badness() dramatically overcounts memory

Jeff Davis wrote:
> In oom_kill.c, one of the badness calculations is wildly inaccurate. If
> memory is shared among child processes, that same memory will be counted
> for each child, effectively multiplying the memory penalty by N, where N
> is the number of children.
> 
> This makes it almost certain that the parent will always be chosen as
> the victim of the OOM killer (assuming any substantial amount memory
> shared among the children), even if the parent and children are well
> behaved and have a reasonable and unchanging VM size.
> 
> Usually this does not actually alleviate the memory pressure because the
> truly bad process is completely unrelated; and the OOM killer must later
> kill the truly bad process.
> 
> This trivial patch corrects the calculation so that it does not count a
> child's shared memory against the parent.
> 

Hi, Jeff,

1. grep on the kernel source tells me that shared_vm is incremented only in
   vm_stat_account(), which is a NO-OP if CONFIG_PROC_FS is not defined.
2. How have you tested these patches? One way to do it would be to use the
   memory controller and set a small limit on the control group. A memory
   intensive application will soon see an OOM.

I do need to look at OOM kill sanity, my colleagues using the memory controller
have reported wrong actions taken by the OOM killer, but I am yet to analyze them.

The interesting thing is the use of total_vm and not the RSS which is used as
the basis by the OOM killer. I need to read/understand the code a bit more.

-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/