linux-kernel - Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.

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Message-ID: <47BC9AF4.10807@gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:26:12 +0300
From:	Alexey Starikovskiy <aystarik@...il.com>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
CC:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	suspend-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net,
	Jeff Chua <jeff.chua.linux@...il.com>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>, Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org,
	Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after
 suspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.

Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, 20 of February 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>     
>>> I think we should export the target sleep state somehow.
>>>       
>> Yeah. By *not* using "->suspend()" for freezing or hibernate.
>>
>> Please, Rafael - just make the f*cking suspend-to-disk use other routines 
>> already.
>>     
>
> Okay, I think I'll just start sending patches for that, but rather not earlier
> than in the 2.6.27 time frame.  No one else works on that and I've been busy
> with other things recently.  Besides, I'm not even a full time kernel
> developer ...
>
>   
Rafael,
If I can help, please  say so.

Regards,
Alex.
>> 99% of all hardware needs to do exactly *nothing* on suspend-to-disk, and the
>> ones that really do need things tend to need to not do a whole lot.
>>
>> For example, the "freeze" action for USB (which is one of the hardest 
>> things to suspend) should literally be something like just setting the 
>> controller STOP bit, and waiting for it to have stopped. The "unfreeze" 
>> should be to just clear the stop bit, while the "restart" should be just a 
>> controller reset to use the current memory image.
>>
>> NONE OF THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING TO DO WITH SUSPEND.
>>
>> It never did. I've told people so for years. Maybe actually seeing the 
>> problems will make people realize.
>>     
>
> I think so.
>
>   
>> So please, we shouldn't call "->suspend[_late]" or "->resume[_early]" at 
>> all. Not with PMSG_FREEZE, not with PMSG_*anything*.
>>
>> Can we please get this fixed some day? 
>>     
>
> Yes, we can (hopefully).
>
> Thanks,
> Rafael
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