linux-kernel - Re: rfc, leader_pid

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Message-ID: <20080318221552.GA143@tv-sign.ru>
Date:	Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:15:52 +0300
From:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...sign.ru>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@...nvz.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: rfc, leader_pid_type()

On 03/18, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...sign.ru> writes:
> 
> > Eric, Pavel.
> >
> > Without tasklist lock held, task_tgid/task_pgrp/task_session can return the
> > bogus NULL. Note that the last 2 can return NULL even if task == current.
> >
> > What do you think if we add yet another helper?
> 
> My current inclination is this places the cost for de_thread in the
> wrong place.  exec on a threaded binary should be rare.
> Any chance we can make de_thread rcu safe?
> 
> We are very close.
> 
> It would take a double check but I believe all we need to do is to
> modify detach_pid to remove link->pid.  This of course messes up
> pid_alive but otherwise we should be ok if we have a big fat comment.

Not sure I understand... detach_pid(type) already sets

	task->pids[type].pid = NULL;

> We might need to replace the detach_pid, attach_pid sequence in
> __set_special_pids with an optimized sequence like transfer_pid
> call it replace_pid where we guarantee there is always a valid pid
> pointer in the group_leader.

OK... I think you are right... good point.

> It just feels wrong to me to put cost (and worse complexity) for
> handling the very rare cases in much more common code paths. 

Absolutely agreed.

> > Yes, we already have a lot helpers... The one potential user is
> > check_kill_permission(), but it can live without it.
> 
> I think it is worth removing the pain of using de_thread if we can.

Agreed, but how? de_thread() must remove the old leader from
->pids[type].node before it does release_task(leader).

(i do remember your idea to _not_ switch ->group_leader on exec,
 it solves sooo many problems...)

Oleg.

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