linux-kernel - Re: Fixing the main programmer thinko with the device model

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Message-ID: <20080326041631.GB28224@kroah.com>
Date:	Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:16:31 -0700
From:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
To:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
Cc:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>,
	"Van De Ven, Arjan" <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Fixing the main programmer thinko with the device model

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:57:32AM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com> writes:
> > 
> > That's true, but irrelevant (and also soon to be untrue if we get rid of
> > the scsi_device class as you and Kay keep requesting).  The two calls
> > release references on the actual embedded generic device, it's nothing
> > to do with entangled lifetime rules.
> 
> <heretic thought>Has anybody ever considered just doing away with 
> the problematic and bug prone and tricky reference counts for kobjects 
> and switch to a simple garbage collector for them?

Sure, I have no objection to that.  It's just that the reference count
"issue" really doesn't seem to be one on sanely designed busses :)

thanks,

greg k-h
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