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Message-ID: <87ve3bi0s3.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>
Date:	25 Mar 2008 10:57:32 +0100
From:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
To:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
Cc:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>,
	"Van De Ven, Arjan" <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Fixing the main programmer thinko with the device model

James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com> writes:
> 
> That's true, but irrelevant (and also soon to be untrue if we get rid of
> the scsi_device class as you and Kay keep requesting).  The two calls
> release references on the actual embedded generic device, it's nothing
> to do with entangled lifetime rules.

<heretic thought>Has anybody ever considered just doing away with 
the problematic and bug prone and tricky reference counts for kobjects 
and switch to a simple garbage collector for them?

-Andi
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