linux-kernel - Re: Introducing Fredux: a redundant project

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Message-ID: <b317600c0804210924i328e7e68p96702d0445c3f1ff@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:24:31 -0500
From:	"Fred Trotter" <fred.trotter@...il.com>
To:	"Al Viro" <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Introducing Fredux: a redundant project

Thanks for replying, responses throughout.

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:38:36AM -0500, Fred Trotter wrote:
>  > http://www.fredtrotter.com/2007/11/27/foss-sin-pointless-duplication-of-effort/
>
>  Far more interesting question: who _cares_?  The notion of "legitimacy" in
>  that context is, AFAICS, based on unfounded assumption that there somebody
>  owes you something - be it their time, their "loyalty", etc.  Developers'
>  minds are not resources you might have a claim upon.

Agreed. But those developers certainly have a claim upon their own
time. Having spent a year working on the "wrong" project, I would have
been much happier if someone had told me that the project was not
"legitimate" compared to other projects. I was contributing to someone
else under false pretenses. It certainly frustrated me and I would
expect that others would have felt the same way. Would it be clearer
if I put this more strongly into the text?

>
>  As as aside, ESR's understanding of the mechanisms making developers'
>  community work had been repeatedly proven to be... inadequate.  FWIW, he
>  seems to be trying to shoehorn everything into an ideology and results are
>  laughable.

ESR might be right... he might be wrong... I am more interested in the
evaluation of my ideas against what "really" happens in the kernel
community. What are the rules here?

-- 
Fred Trotter
http://www.fredtrotter.com
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