linux-kernel - Re: Slow DOWN, please!!!

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Message-ID: <4818EC70.90802@gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 01 May 2008 02:02:24 +0400
From:	Dmitri Vorobiev <dmitri.vorobiev@...il.com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
CC:	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
	rjw@...k.pl, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, jirislaby@...il.com,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Subject: Re: Slow DOWN, please!!!

David Miller пишет:
> From: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:54:05 -0700
> 
>> linux-next does little to address our two largest (IMO) problems:
>> inadequate review and inadequate response to bug and regression reports. 
>> But those problems are harder to fix..
> 
> This is all about positive and negative reinforcement.
> 
> The people who sit and git bisect their lives away to get the
> regressions fixed need more positive reinforcement.  And the people
> who stick these regressions into the tree need more negative
> reinforcement.
> 
> The current way of dealing with folks who stick broken crud into the
> tree results in zero change in behvaior.
> 
> People who insert the bum changes into the tree only really have one
> core thing that they are sensitive to, their reputation.  That's why
> there is an enormous reluctance to even suggest reverts, it looks bad
> for them and it also makes more work for them in the end.
> 
> I guess what these folks are truly afraid of is that someone will
> start tracking reverts and post their results in some presentation
> at some big conference.  I say that would be a good thing.  To
> be honest, hitting the revert button more aggressively and putting
> the fear of being the "revert king" into everyone's minds might
> really help with this problem.
> 
> Currently there is no sufficient negative pushback on people who
> insert broken crud into the tree.  So it should be no surprise that it
> continues.

I'm not a frequent poster to this mailing list, but I do spend a good
portion of my life reading it. Please excuse me for expressing my very
personal opinion, but I thought you might probably be interested in a
detached view of the situation.

I think that many have guessed that I would like to talk about the attacks
to Ingo and backwards. Believe me, this fight looks childish, as it becomes
obvious that that went beyond purely technical disputes, which Linus is so
keen of rightfully writing about.

In no case am I implying any kind of offense, but I do believe that bad
emotions do hinder the community from advancing with the technical things.

Dmitri
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