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Message-Id: <200805010452.14475.elendil@planet.nl>
Date:	Thu, 1 May 2008 04:52:13 +0200
From:	Frans Pop <elendil@...net.nl>
To:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
Cc:	paulus@...ba.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org, rjw@...k.pl,
	davem@...emloft.net, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, jirislaby@...il.com
Subject: Re: Slow DOWN, please!!!

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Paul Mackerras wrote:
>> By the way, if you do want to make that rule, then there's a really
>> easy way to do it - just pull linux-next, and make that one pull be
>> the entire merge window. :)
> 
> That's a unique and interesting idea...

Full ack.

Especially if there was some kind of "pre-merge linux-next freeze" where 
people (arch maintainers, kernel testers) would be actively invited to do 
pre-merge testing.

During that period only changes that fix reported issues (be it build issues 
or regressions) would be allowed:
- either a revert of the problematic commit
- or a targeted fix

This could even hugely improve the bisectability of mainline after the merge 
as such changes could be merged/rebased into the subsystem tree _before_ 
Linus pulls them into mainline.

Currently I avoid -next and -mm and I also don't do any merge window 
testing. Why? Too much flux, too many issues, too much energy required.
But if there was some sort of pre-merge call for testing of an identifiable 
and relatively stable tree, I would definitely participate in that and be 
willing to spend time to bisect the hell out of any issues I'd find.

Cheers,
FJP
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