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Message-ID: <20080504175913.GA28072@citd.de>
Date:	Sun, 4 May 2008 19:59:13 +0200
From:	Matthias Schniedermeyer <ms@...d.de>
To:	Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@...mix.at>
Cc:	Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@...ux-m68k.org>,
	linux-kbuild <linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: kconfig - a suggestion how to fix the select issue

On 04.05.2008 12:12, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 09:10 +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> > Today we have two ways to express/solve dependencies.
> > 
> > Top-down we have "depends on"
> > and bottom up we have "select".
> > 
> > The "depends on" dependencies at the same
> > time impact the visibility of a symbol.
> > A symbol with "depends on" not satisfied are not
> > visible and thus not shown in menuconfig.
> 
> Perhaps this is problem: The menu item shouldn't be selectable for sure
> but it may well be visible (and I'm purposely ignoring details of "how
> to grey out" for the different user interfaces).
> If it's visible (but not selectable) the user interface can provide the
> auto-generated requirements (derived from the "depends on" chains) as
> part of the "help" or where ever it seems useful. And the user at least
> knows where to look further.

I always wondered why there is no "grey out", at least optionaly.

My "favourite"(tm) example of a sub-marine is: Wireless drivers (mac80211).

The config-option to switch on the visibility of the mac80211 drivers 
("CONFIG_MAC80211") is conveniently located on the other side of the 
milky way.
(3 menus down, a sitestep and 2 up again. At least in menuconfig)







Bis denn

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