Date:	Mon, 5 May 2008 14:23:16 +0200
From:	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>
To:	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@...glemail.com>
Cc:	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, mk <michael.kerrisk@...il.com>
Subject: Re: MAP_POPULATE behavior change?

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 02:07:17PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> Hey Nick,
> 
> Ping!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: MAP_POPULATE behavior change?
> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:16:19 +0200
> From: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@...il.com>
> To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>
> CC: lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, mk <michael.kerrisk@...il.com>
> 
> Hi Nick,
> 
> In 2.6.23, you had the commit below, which seems to have changed the
> kernel-userland API.
> 
> Am I right to understand that with this patch MAP_POPULATE now also works with
> MAP_PRIVATE mappings?  (Formerly it only worked with MAP_SHARED mappings, but
> some very quick testing suggests that MAP_POPULATE now also has an affect for
> MAP_PRIVATE.)

Yeah it should also set up anonymous mappings. Very observant :)

 
> Also, can you summarize the status of MAP_NONBLOCK?  Is it now a no-op?

Yes, it is. The problem is you need to walk the page tables, and it
is fairly annoying to have to make a special case for that to be
non blocking (after just getting rid of the ->populate special case).

It is possible of course to implement. It might even be easier because
you could pass in a NONBLOCK flag to ->fault from get_user_pages... but
for now it is a noop.

Thanks,
Nick

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
> ==
> 
> commit 54cb8821de07f2ffcd28c380ce9b93d5784b40d7
> Author: Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>
> Date:   Thu Jul 19 01:46:59 2007 -0700
> 
>     mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear)
> 
>     Nonlinear mappings are (AFAIKS) simply a virtual memory concept that encodes
>     the virtual address -> file offset differently from linear mappings.
> 
>     ->populate is a layering violation because the filesystem/pagecache code
>     should need to know anything about the virtual memory mapping.  The hitch here
>     is that the ->nopage handler didn't pass down enough information (ie.  pgoff).
>      But it is more logical to pass pgoff rather than have the ->nopage function
>     calculate it itself anyway (because that's a similar layering violation).
> 
>     Having the populate handler install the pte itself is likewise a nasty thing
>     to be doing.
> 
>     This patch introduces a new fault handler that replaces ->nopage and
>     ->populate and (later) ->nopfn.  Most of the old mechanism is still in place
>     so there is a lot of duplication and nice cleanups that can be removed if
>     everyone switches over.
> 
>     The rationale for doing this in the first place is that nonlinear mappings are
>     subject to the pagefault vs invalidate/truncate race too, and it seemed stupid
>     to duplicate the synchronisation logic rather than just consolidate the two.
> 
>     After this patch, MAP_NONBLOCK no longer sets up ptes for pages present in
>     pagecache.  Seems like a fringe functionality anyway.
> 
>     NOPAGE_REFAULT is removed.  This should be implemented with ->fault, and no
>     users have hit mainline yet.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael Kerrisk
> Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
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> 
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