linux-kernel - Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes

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Message-ID: <20080511144611.GV19219@parisc-linux.org>
Date:	Sun, 11 May 2008 08:46:11 -0600
From:	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	Sven Wegener <sven.wegener@...aler.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 04:32:27PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx> wrote:
> 
> > > the gain is rather obvious: two parallel up()s (or just up()s which 
> > > come close enough after each other) will wake up two tasks in 
> > > parallel. With your patch, the first guy wakes up and then it wakes 
> > > up the second guy. I.e. your patch serializes the wakeup chain, mine 
> > > keeps it parallel.
> > 
> > Yup.  I explained why that's actually beneficial in an earlier email.
> 
> but the problem is that by serializing the wakeup chains naively you 
> introduced a more than 50% AIM7 performance regression.

That's a different issue.  The AIM7 regression is to do with whether a
task that is currently running and hits a semaphore that has no current
holder but someone else waiting should be allowed to jump the queue.
No argument there; performance trumps theoretical fairness.

This issue is whether multiple sleepers should be woken up all-at-once
or one-at-a-time.  Here, you seem to be arguing for theoretical fairness
to trump performance.

(Let's be quite clear; this issue affects *only* multiple
sleepers and multiple wakes given to those sleepers.  ie
semaphores-being-used-as-completions and true counting semaphores).

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