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Message-ID: <20080511144821.GW19219@parisc-linux.org>
Date:	Sun, 11 May 2008 08:48:21 -0600
From:	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	Sven Wegener <sven.wegener@...aler.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
Subject: Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 04:42:03PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx> wrote:
> 
> > > > Current XFS CVS has a fix from myself and Christoph that gets rid 
> > > > of the l_flushsema and replaces it with a staggered wakeup of each 
> > > > task that's waiting as the previously woken task clears the 
> > > > critical section.
>
> i was not talking about the race. I was just reacting on your comments 
> about thundering herds and staggered wakeups - which is a performance 
> detail. Semaphores should not regress AIM7 by 50% but otherwise they are 
> legacy code and their use should be reduced monotonically, so i was 
> asking why anyone still cares about tuning semaphore details in XFS 
> instead of just working on removing semaphore use from them.

That's what we did.  l_flushsema is gone.  It actually got replaced with
a condition variable, but it's equivalent to a wait_event()

> exactly what usecase is that? Perhaps it could be converted to an atomic 
> counter + the wait_event() APIs.

Effectively, it's a completion.  It just works better with staggered
wakeups than it does with the naive completion.

-- 
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"Bill, look, we understand that you're interested in selling us this
operating system, but compare it to ours.  We can't possibly take such
a retrograde step."
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