linux-kernel - Re: CFD: linux-wanking@...r.kernel.org

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Message-Id: <20080521.124954.193695735.davem@davemloft.net>
Date:	Wed, 21 May 2008 12:49:54 -0700 (PDT)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	akpm@...ux-foundation.org
Cc:	tytso@....edu, hch@...radead.org, viro@...IV.linux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CFD: linux-wanking@...r.kernel.org

From: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:46:44 -0700

> Guys, get a clue.  It doesn't matter what that person did.  It is the
> effect upon *all* other potential developers which is so damaging here.
> Not upon this individual.

You can't have your cake and eat it too Andrew.

It's only a half-story to talk about future contributors when current
trends on this list are making things bad for existing folks doing
useful work.

You make it sound like it's this one sided story where we have to be
all nicey nicey to everybody so that new contributors aren't discouraged,
and that's where it ends.

But we're currently encouraging a society of bottom feeders.  And
bottom feeders, although erroneously perceived as being good for the
fish tank, actually end up making the tank more dirty in the end.
So this is a trend we have to reverse now.

And we're not going to close cultural gaps by making Al Viro or any
other major kernel contributor quiet about things like this.  Don't be
so naive Andrew.  The problem is so much larger than that.
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