linux-kernel - Re: [GIT *] Allow request_firmware() to be satisfied from in-kernel, use it in more drivers.

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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0807151426021.16109@asgard.lang.hm>
Date:	Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:27:59 -0700 (PDT)
From:	david@...g.hm
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
cc:	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@...tmann.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
	Frans Pop <elendil@...net.nl>, jeff@...zik.org,
	arjan@...radead.org, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT *] Allow request_firmware() to be satisfied from in-kernel,
 use it in more drivers.

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
>>
>> you don't have to. We extend udev once and then it will always work.
>
> Umm. The thing is, people running new kernels with old user land is not
> just supposed to work, it's _really_ supposed to work.
>
> It's what I do. Something that breaks that has to have damn good reasons
> to break it.
>
> So I do not disagree with Jeff on that point _at_all_. I'm in violent
> agreement with Jeff on the fact that we should not require system updates
> for the kernel to do the right thing.
>
> The thing I disagree with Jeff on is that he then seems to turn that into
> something very negative ("let's not separate the firmware at all").

he's not saying not to seperate the firmware at all, he's asking for the 
_option_ of compiling a kernel that doesn't have the firmware seperate 
from the modules.

a kernel compiled with this option would just drop-in to an older distro 
with zero impact. newer distros that have updated their userspace tools 
could compile with different options and have the firmware seperate.

David Lang
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