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Date:	Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:18:26 -0400
From:	"Ryan Hope" <rmh3093@...il.com>
To:	"Edward Shishkin" <edward.shishkin@...il.com>
Cc:	"Theodore Tso" <tytso@....edu>,
	"Ric Wheeler" <ricwheeler@...il.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Reiserfs mailing list" <reiserfs-devel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: reiser4 for 2.6.27-rc1

So the purpose of that "plugins" document is just to "defend" the
present state of the reiser4 code?

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Edward Shishkin
<edward.shishkin@...il.com> wrote:
> Ryan Hope wrote:
>> Can you explain a little more what this "plugin design documentation"
>> actually is and how it supposed to help?
>> -Ryan
>>
>>
>
> This document is to define plugins, etc primitives (like conversion
> of run-time objects) used in reiser4, and to describe all reiser4
> interfaces, so that it will be clear that VFS functionality is not
> duplicated, there are not VFS layers inside reiser4, etc. (many items
> are devoted to interaction between VFS and reiser4).
> I am sorry, but these concepts (which are very central) have not been
> worked out carefully enough at the moment of this 3-year-old review:
> http://kerneltrap.org/node/5330
>
> Edward.
>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Edward Shishkin
>> <edward.shishkin@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ric Wheeler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Theodore Tso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 12:34:53PM -0400, Ryan Hope wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> Hi, I am here :)
>>> Join our mailing list:
>>>
>>> http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#reiserfs-devel
>>> http://marc.info/?l=reiserfs-devel&r=1&w=2
>>>
>>> There are many interesting tasks to resolve/investigate..
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm, removing the plugin support might not be so hard....  I might
>>>>>> have to try this...
>>>>>>
>>> Please, don't try to do this.
>>>
>>> I am working on the plugin design document. It will be ready
>>> approximately in September. I believe that it'll address all the
>>> mentioned complaints.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> I am not impressed with btrfs yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, if you're going to work on reiser4 (and I think there were other
>>>>> people who had also expressed interest/plans to work on it; you might
>>>>> try doing a search on the various mailing lists so you can coordinate
>>>>> with them and avoid duplicating work), my suggestion to you would be
>>>>> to find the comments that were made by the reviewers way back when,
>>>>> and make sure those comments have been addressed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then, re-requests a code review, and promise that you won't abuse, and
>>>>> insult the integrity and impugn the motivations of the reviewers
>>>>>
>>> Well, Ted, I'll promise ;)
>>> We'll adhere strictly the propositional logic in the review thread..
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Edward.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> like
>>>>> Hans did, and hopefully after they review the code, fix those problems
>>>>> as well.  Then you can try resubmitting for inclusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>                                              - Ted
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> My most up to date information is that Edward is still actively
>>>> working on reiser4....
>>>>
>>>> ric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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