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Date:	Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:56:33 +0400
From:	Edward Shishkin <edward.shishkin@...il.com>
To:	Ryan Hope <rmh3093@...il.com>
CC:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@...il.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Reiserfs mailing list <reiserfs-devel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: reiser4 for 2.6.27-rc1

Ryan Hope wrote:
> Can you explain a little more what this "plugin design documentation"
> actually is and how it supposed to help?
> -Ryan
>
>   

This document is to define plugins, etc primitives (like conversion
of run-time objects) used in reiser4, and to describe all reiser4
interfaces, so that it will be clear that VFS functionality is not
duplicated, there are not VFS layers inside reiser4, etc. (many items
are devoted to interaction between VFS and reiser4).
I am sorry, but these concepts (which are very central) have not been
worked out carefully enough at the moment of this 3-year-old review:
http://kerneltrap.org/node/5330

Edward.

> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Edward Shishkin
> <edward.shishkin@...il.com> wrote:
>   
>> Ric Wheeler wrote:
>>     
>>> Theodore Tso wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 12:34:53PM -0400, Ryan Hope wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>> Hi, I am here :)
>> Join our mailing list:
>>
>> http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#reiserfs-devel
>> http://marc.info/?l=reiserfs-devel&r=1&w=2
>>
>> There are many interesting tasks to resolve/investigate..
>>
>>     
>>>>> Hmmm, removing the plugin support might not be so hard....  I might
>>>>> have to try this...
>>>>>           
>> Please, don't try to do this.
>>
>> I am working on the plugin design document. It will be ready
>> approximately in September. I believe that it'll address all the
>> mentioned complaints.
>>
>>     
>>>>> I am not impressed with btrfs yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> Well, if you're going to work on reiser4 (and I think there were other
>>>> people who had also expressed interest/plans to work on it; you might
>>>> try doing a search on the various mailing lists so you can coordinate
>>>> with them and avoid duplicating work), my suggestion to you would be
>>>> to find the comments that were made by the reviewers way back when,
>>>> and make sure those comments have been addressed.
>>>>
>>>> Then, re-requests a code review, and promise that you won't abuse, and
>>>> insult the integrity and impugn the motivations of the reviewers
>>>>         
>> Well, Ted, I'll promise ;)
>> We'll adhere strictly the propositional logic in the review thread..
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Edward.
>>
>>     
>>>> like
>>>> Hans did, and hopefully after they review the code, fix those problems
>>>> as well.  Then you can try resubmitting for inclusion.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>                                              - Ted
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> My most up to date information is that Edward is still actively
>>> working on reiser4....
>>>
>>> ric
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>
>>     
>
>   

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