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Message-ID: <48A2E391.3080404@cubic.ch>
Date:	Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:37:21 +0200
From:	Tim Tassonis <timtas@...ic.ch>
To:	Michael Krufky <mkrufky@...uxtv.org>
CC:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@...e.cz>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: reiser4 for 2.6.27-rc1

Michael Krufky wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 02:58:08PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>> On Mon 2008-08-04 14:26:21, Tim Tassonis wrote:
>>>>> Why is reiser4 still not in a vanilla kernel for
>>>>> testing. I have had
>>>>> to apply the reiser4 patches from -mm kernels to
>>>>> vanilla based
>>>>> patchset for over a year now. Reiser4 works fine, what
>>>>> will it take to
>>>>> get it included in vanilla? Here is a patch to add
>>>>> reiser4 to
>>>>> 2.6.27-rc1:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://zen-sources.org/files/reiser4-for-2.6.27-rc1.patch
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ryan
>>>> A good thing for a start would be to rename the whole
>>>> thing to something else, for obvious reasons.
>>> Whats wrong with reiser4 name?
>>>
>>>                                                       Pavel
>>>                       (or am I feeding a troll?)
>> Not wanting a new filesystem named after a convicted murderer is not
>> a trollish suggestion.
> 
> 
> Regardless of the murder conviction, I still believe that the guy
> should get credit for his work.
> 
> Reiserfs is a name that we all know of, regardless of how current we
> are with the news (although you'd have to be PRETTY far behind if you
> don't know about the crime)
> 
> The current reiserfs filesystems aren't being renamed -- are they??
> 
> Does it really hurt to keep his name there?  I think it should just go as-is.

Well, in my opinion, there is little point in renaming reiserfs 3 now, 
as it is basically obsolete anyway and I suppose will disappear over time.

As reiser4 is not yet in and would need some rework before inclusion 
anyway, the name could be fixed easily and I do think it would be a bit 
irritating to just completely ignore real-world issues.

As for giving credit, I wasn't advocating in removing authorship 
attribution (that's what giving credit means to me), but calling the 
filesystem after himself was always a bit egocentric anyway. We don't 
have t'sofs, engelfs, molnarsched and stuff like that.

And yes, I think Hans lost his right to decide over the name because of 
what he has done. That is no disrespect for his work, only for him as 
person in general, and I do strongly disrespect him as a person.

Tim

> 
> -Mike

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