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Message-ID: <2629CC4E1D22A64593B02C43E855530304AE4C0C@USILMS12.ca.com>
Date:	Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:30:24 -0400
From:	"Press, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Press@...com>
To:	<david@...g.hm>
Cc:	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@...radead.org>,
	"Helge Hafting" <helge.hafting@...el.hist.no>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <malware-list@...ts.printk.net>,
	<hch@...radead.org>, <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	<viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>, <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@...radead.org>
Subject: RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model?  well sorta.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: david@...g.hm [mailto:david@...g.hm]
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 12:25 PM
> To: Press, Jonathan
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra; Helge Hafting; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org;
malware-
> list@...ts.printk.net; hch@...radead.org; andi@...stfloor.org;
> viro@...IV.linux.org.uk; alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk; Arjan van de Ven
> Subject: RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta.


> > The problem is that you have to account for the cases where the
malware
> > made it onto the system even if you were trying to catch it ahead of
> > time.  For example:
> >
> > - Administrator turns off or reduces AV protection for some reason
for
> > some period of time.  It happens all the time.
> 
> according to the threat model actions of the administrator do not
matter.

Sorry, I don't know what you mean.

Jon

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