linux-kernel - Re: XFS vs Elevators (was Re: [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system)

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Message-Id: <200808211700.39584.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Date:	Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:00:39 +1000
From:	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>
To:	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>
Cc:	gus3 <musicman529@...oo.com>,
	Szabolcs Szakacsits <szaka@...s-3g.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	xfs@....sgi.com
Subject: Re: XFS vs Elevators (was Re: [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system)

On Thursday 21 August 2008 16:14, Dave Chinner wrote:

> I think that we need to issue explicit unplugs to get the log I/O
> dispatched the way we want on all elevators and stop trying to
> give elevators implicit hints by abusing the bio types and hoping
> they do the right thing....

FWIW, my explicit plugging idea is still hanging around in one of
Jens' block trees (actually he refreshed it a couple of months ago).

It provides an API for VM or filesystems to plug and unplug
requests coming out of the current process, and it can reduce the
need to idle the queue. Needs more performance analysis and tuning
though.

But existing plugging is below the level of the elevators, and should
only kick in for at most tens of ms at queue idle events, so it sounds
like it may not be your problem. Elevators will need some hint to give
priority to specific requests -- either via the current threads's io
priority, or information attached to bios.

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