linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] make poll_idle behave more like the other idle methods

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Message-ID: <20080828132237.GA20926@tsunami.ccur.com>
Date:	Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:22:37 -0400
From:	Joe Korty <joe.korty@...r.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] make poll_idle behave more like the other idle methods

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 05:00:36AM -0400, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Joe Korty <joe.korty@...r.com> wrote:
> 
> > Make poll_idle() behave more like the other idle methods.
> >
> > Currently, poll_idle() returns immediately.  The other
> > idle methods all wait indefinately for some condition
> > to come true before returning.  poll_idle should emulate
> > these other methods and also wait for a return condition,
> > in this case, for need_resched() to become 'true'.
> >
> > Without this delay the idle loop spends all of its time
> > in the outer loop that calls poll_idle.  This outer loop,
> > these days, does real work, some of it under rcu locks.
> > That work should only be done when idle is entered and
> > when idle exits, not continuously while idle is spinning.
> 
> i'm wondering, what's the motivation, have you actually seen
> anything bad/undesired happen due to that?

I saw the outer loop running continuously, from the old
trace patch which I had applied.

Nowdays the outer loop runs the NO_HZ stuff, which touches
quite a few memory locations.  Having say two cpus in idle
and there is potential for cache thrashing to suck up a good
part of the local memory bus bandwidth.

And I suspect as time goes on cpu_idle will end up with
more work to do.

Joe
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