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Message-ID: <20080829082129.GF16462@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi>
Date:	Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:21:29 +0300
From:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
To:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc:	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>, fuse-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] OSS Proxy using CUSE

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 09:26:03AM +0200, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>...
> >> Anyways, the thing is that unlike what was originally expected, dropping
> >> an major programming API doesn't really work too well even after six
> >> years of trying.
> > 
> > Good ALSA emulation was a hot topic a few years ago when popular 
> > software like Flash and Skype didn't support ALSA, but the use
> > cases are becoming rare.
> > 
> > 2 out of your 3 examples above were software where native ALSA works,
> > but your distributions seems to ship you a setup where you thought 
> > OSS emulation was required.
> 
> Yeah, that's why I agree it's a bit too late but still better late than
> never.  There are just some programs, be it commercial or ancient, which
> don't work quite as well as it could.  Requiring update to ALSA took
> painfully long years and we're still not in the clear yet.  Now should
> we ask people to update to PA?
>...

Doesn't PA already emulate ALSA?

> ossp is simply a better way to support /dev/dsp on modern systems and
> bulk of it lives in userland (and I hope this can be the case for future
> deprecations too).  If for nothing else, it'll enable us to do away with
> three different emulations at the very least.  I mean we can't of course
> do away with padsp and then some still only work with aoss and then we
> need in-kernel ALSA OSS emulation as the final fallback when both fail.
>  It's a big mess and ossp can basically OSS emulation as good as
> in-kernel ALSA OSS w/ muxing.

The in-kernel OSS emulation also support OSS MIDI.

> Thanks.
> tejun

cu
Adrian

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