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Message-Id: <1220095043.8426.16.camel@twins>
Date:	Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:17:23 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@...ell.com>
Cc:	mingo@...e.hu, rostedt@...dmis.org, tglx@...utronix.de,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-rt-users@...r.kernel.org,
	gregory.haskins@...il.com, andi@...stfloor.org,
	shemminger@...tta.com
Subject: Re: [RT PATCH v2] seqlock: serialize against writers

On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 14:03 -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> *Patch submitted for inclusion in PREEMPT_RT 26-rt4.  Applies to 2.6.26.3-rt3*
> 
> Hi Ingo, Steven, Thomas,
>   Please consider for -rt4.  This fixes a nasty deadlock on my systems under
>   heavy load.
> 
> [
> Changelog:
> 	v2: only touch seqlock_t because raw_seqlock_t doesn't require
> 	    serialization and userspace cannot modify data during a read
> 
> 	v1: initial release
> ]
> 
> -Greg
> 
> ----
> seqlock: serialize against writers
> 
> Seqlocks have always advertised that readers do not "block", but this was
> never really true.  Readers have always logically blocked at the head of
> the critical section under contention with writers, regardless of whether
> they were allowed to run code or not.
> 
> Recent changes in this space (88a411c07b6fedcfc97b8dc51ae18540bd2beda0)
> have turned this into a more explicit blocking operation in mainline.
> However, this change highlights a short-coming in -rt because the
> normal seqlock_ts are preemptible.  This means that we can potentially
> deadlock should a reader spin waiting for a write critical-section to end
> while the writer is preempted.

Ah, the point I was missing is higher-priority realtime task, in which
case the write side will never run because it wont preempt.

> This patch changes the internal implementation to use a rwlock and forces
> the readers to serialize with the writers under contention.  This will
> have the advantage that -rt seqlocks_t will sleep the reader if deadlock
> were imminent, and it will pi-boost the writer to prevent inversion.
> 
> This fixes a deadlock discovered under testing where all high prioritiy
> readers were hogging the cpus and preventing a writer from releasing the
> lock.
> 
> Since seqlocks are designed to be used as rarely-write locks, this should
> not affect the performance in the fast-path

Still dont like this patch, once you have a rwlock you might as well go
all the way. Esp since this half-arsed construct defeats PI in certain
cases.

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