linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 06/18] lirc driver for the ATI USB RF remote receiver

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Message-ID: <20080910141947.GA32564@infradead.org>
Date:	Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:19:47 -0400
From:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
To:	Janne Grunau <j@...nau.net>
Cc:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Jarod Wilson <jwilson@...hat.com>,
	Ville Syrj?l? <syrjala@....fi>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@...telmus.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/18] lirc driver for the ATI USB RF remote receiver

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 03:44:17PM +0200, Janne Grunau wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 September 2008 15:14:32 Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 09:05:58AM -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote:
> > > True, though I think some users still prefer using them with the
> > > lirc drivers for assorted reasons. Configuring something like
> > > mythtv to work with the ati_remote{,2} driver appears to be a bit
> > > more complex (or at least non- standard vs. several other popular
> > > remotes) and not as functional vs. configuring mythtv
> > > w/lirc_atiusb.
> >
> > Bad idea to have two drivers for the same piece of hardware.  And
> > this gets straight back into the why should lirc be different from
> > the input layer point raised earlies.  I think we really shouldn't
> > keep lirc as a separate subsystem, but make sure all the drivers are
> > written to the input layer.
> 
> Some drivers don't report events but deliver the signal to the lirc 
> daemon. The daemon decodes the signal. Decoding of several IR protocols 
> and mapping of each possible remote to events are things much easier 
> done in userspace.

Mixing these two in the same interface seems like a really bad idea.
The input layer is the right interface for devices that directly produce
events.  If you want to decode them in userspace you need a different
interface for the daemon.  Not sure why you really want to do this in
userspace, though.

> Aslo LIRC is not only about IR input but also output.

The input layer also does some outputs, like the pc speaker :)



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