linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] 0/11 fanotify: fscking all notifiction and file access system (intended for antivirus scanning and file indexers)

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Message-Id: <1222524294.2872.252.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:04:54 -0400
From:	Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>
To:	david@...g.hm
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, malware-list@...ts.printk.net,
	arjan@...radead.org, bunk@...nel.org, tytso@....edu,
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	peterz@...radead.org, Jonathan.Press@...com, riel@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] 0/11 fanotify: fscking all notifiction and file access
	system (intended for antivirus scanning and file indexers)

On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 23:05 -0700, david@...g.hm wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Eric Paris wrote:
> 
> > fanotify has 7 event types and only sends events for S_ISREG() files.
> > The event types are OPEN, READ, WRITE, CLOSE_WRITE, CLOSE_NOWRITE,
> > OPEN_ACCESS, and READ_ACCESS.  Events OPEN_ACCESS and READ_ACCESS
> > require that the listener return some sort of allow/deny/more_time
> > response as the original process blocks until it gets an event (or times
> > out.)  listeners may register a group which will get notifications about
> > any combination of these events.  Antivirus scanners will likely want
> > OPEN_ACCESS and READ_ACCESS while file indexers would likely use the
> > non-ACCESS form of these events.
> 
> sending a message out for every READ/WRITE seems like it will generate a 
> LOT of messages, and very few will be ones that anyone cares about.
> 
> one of the nice things about the TALPA approach was that there was an 
> ability to notify only on a change of state (i.e. when a file that had 
> been scanned was changed)
> 
> this could do a similar thing, but I think it would be a much more 
> expensive process to do it all in userspace.

See the fastpath patch and explaination.  Doesn't help for writes...

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