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Message-ID: <ac3eb2510810040509q24b26c8ek2bd6ca75343e2553@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:09:38 +0200
From: "Kay Sievers" <kay.sievers@...y.org>
To: "Bjorn Helgaas" <bjorn.helgaas@...com>
Cc: ambx1@....rr.com, elendil@...net.nl, trenn@...e.de,
akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
tpm@...horst.net, rjw@...k.pl, greg@...ah.com
Subject: Re: char/tpm: tpm_infineon no longer loaded for HP 2510p laptop
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@...com> wrote:
> On Friday 22 August 2008 06:43:05 am Kay Sievers wrote:
>> On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 06:06 -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>> > Since PNP currently doesn't generate any uevents or modalias files,
>> > I expect that a non-ACPI system will be unable to autoload modules
>> > for ISAPNP or PNPBIOS devices. Right?
>>
>> They do create events, but without modalias. The shell script hack,
>> which udev runs, will make the event behave like it contained one.
>
> I'm finally looking at this again; sorry for the long hiatus. I'm
> working on a patch to add PNP uevent support, modalias sysfs files
> for PNP, and file2alias.c changes to match, and I just want to
> make sure I'm understanding this correctly.
Sounds good, just in mind, that there are custom modprobe configs out
there, that rely on the current pnp alias format, like:
alias pnp:dPNP0510 irtty-sir
alias pnp:dPNP0511 irtty-sir
alias pnp:dPNP0700 floppy
alias pnp:dPNP0303 atkbd
alias pnp:dPNP0f13 psmouse
...
We should make sure, that this still works, which wouldn't if we just
do the acpi style aliases.
> Before your file2alias.c changes[1], I think we generated this:
> alias pnp:dPNP0500* 8250_pnp
>
> We relied on the udev shell hack to run "modprobe -a pnp:dPNP0500"
> based on the contents of /sys/bus/pnp/devices/00:05/id.
>
> With your file2alias.c changes, we now generate this:
> alias acpi*:PNP0500:* 8250_pnp
> alias pnp:dPNP0500* 8250_pnp
>
> On ACPI systems, this works fine because "acpi*:PNP0500:*" matches
> the ACPI-generated uevents like:
> MODALIAS=acpi:PNP0501:PNP0500:
>
> We can load 8250_pnp without relying on the udev shell hack
> *on ACPI systems*.
>
> I thought the object of your file2alias.c changes was to remove the
> need for the udev shell hack, but don't we still require it on
> non-ACPI systems because they won't emit the ACPI uevents?
Yes, the plan is to move that rule from the default udev rule set to
the isapnp package.
Thanks,
Kay
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