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Date:	Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:26:15 +0200
From:	"Markus Rechberger" <mrechberger@...il.com>
To:	"Greg KH" <greg@...ah.com>
Cc:	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	em28xx <em28xx@...ntral.de>, acano@...tmail.fm,
	"Andre Kelmanson" <akelmanson@...il.com>,
	"Bouwsma Barry" <freebeer.bouwsma@...il.com>,
	"Dan Kreiser" <kreiser@...ormatik.hu-berlin.de>,
	"Frank Neuber" <fn@...nelport.de>,
	"Jelle de Jong" <jelledejong@...ercraft.nl>,
	"John Stowers" <john.stowers.lists@...il.com>,
	"Lukas Kuna" <lukas.kuna@...anet.net>,
	"Stefan Vonolfen" <stefan.vonolfen@...il.com>,
	"Stephan Berberig" <s.berberig@...or.de>,
	"Thomas Giesecke" <thomas.giesecke@...mbh-naumburg.de>,
	"Vitaly Wool" <vwool@...mvista.com>,
	"Zhenyu Wang" <zhen78@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] Adding empia base driver

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Markus Rechberger
<mrechberger@...il.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:14:36PM +0200, Markus Rechberger wrote:
>>>     em2880-dvb:
>>>     * supporting the digital part of Empia based devices, which
>>> includes ATSC, ISDB-T and DVB-T
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Doesn't this driver duplicate some of the existing devices we already
>> support with the current in-kernel driver?  If so, why not just add the
>> new device support to the existing driver instead of duplicating
>> everything?
>>
>> This is going to cause a big problem for distros as they will not know
>> which to enable, so they will probably just disable this one, which is
>> what I don't think you want to have happen :(
>>
>
> the current driver doesn't support most devices which are in there,
> also the alsa
> audio driver can easily crash the whole system. (It's my code so I
> know what was wrong there).
>

since the USB IDs were taken from the driver from mcentral.de without
testing them at all.

> The core video code is already too much off, the VBI code added alot complexity
> to it it does frame slicing on the fly.
>
> Those devices ship VBI+VIDEO within 1 datastream, VBI and Video aren't
> that different
> in the system. both interfaces provide framebuffers through a mmap'ed interface.
> If all the VBI buffers are filled the data has to be sliced off in any
> case while providing
> the same bottom data ot the Video interface
>
> http://mcentral.de/hg/~mrec/em28xx-new/shortlog (there are more than
> 200 changelog entries
> what happened in detail).
>
> The development has been split off (first due limitations in the
> kernel, afterwards due ..., and finally
> due the restriction that all that has to work without a framework
> upgrade on the eeePC).
>
> diffing the 2 available drivers shows up that only the core is twice
> as big as the one which is currently
> in the driver (the result of 2-3 years asynchronous development).
>
> The driver is currently also tested with signal generators (different
> inputs, and different video standards).
>
> Very likely the best would be to replace the available driver with it
> but I don't care, alot people use and have been using the driver from
> mcentral.de for a long time, development has always been opensource
> there too.
>
> regards,
> Markus
>
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