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Message-Id: <200811031828.07285.bzolnier@gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:28:07 +0100
From:	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@...il.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Alok N Kataria <akataria@...are.com>,
	Robert Hancock <hancockr@...w.ca>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@...e.cz>
Subject: Re: upstream regression (IO-APIC?)

On Sunday 02 November 2008, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> On Sunday 02 November 2008, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> > On Thursday 30 October 2008, Robert Hancock wrote:
> > > Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> > > > The current Linus tree as of commit e946217e4fdaa67681bbabfa8e6b18641921f750
> > > > is broken for me.  I get either the following panic (see log from qemu below)
> > > > or lost IRQs on ATA init...  Is this a known issue?
> > > > 
> > > > PS The tree that I used before and was supposedly good (sorry, I'm too tired
> > > > to verify it now) had commit 57f8f7b60db6f1ed2c6918ab9230c4623a9dbe37 at head.
> > 
> > Unfortunately 57f8f7b60db6f1ed2c6918ab9230c4623a9dbe37 (v2.6.28-rc1)
> > is also bad.  Bisecting it further was a real pain (i.e. I hit broken
> > build with x86 irqbalance changes, broken build with netfilter nat
> > changes and jbd journal problem).  In the end it turned out that 2.6.27
> > is bad too!  However with 2.6.27 the panic occurs only once per several
> > attempts and if there is no panic kernel boots normally (no lost IRQs).
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > I finally managed to narrow it down to change making x86 use tsc_khz
> > for loops_per_jiffy -- commit 3da757daf86e498872855f0b5e101f763ba79499
> > ("x86: use cpu_khz for loops_per_jiffy calculation").  This approach
> > seems too simplistic (as I see now Arjan & Pavel expressed concerns
> > about it back when the patch was posted initially [1][2]).  Also it
> > would probably be preferred to re-use existing preset_lpj variable
> > (just like KVM does it for similar purpose [3]) instead of adding a
> > lpj_tsc one and increasing complexity.
> 
> It turned out that I can boot a kernel with different config with
> HZ == 250 just fine and switching to HZ == 1000 makes it fail.
> 
> 
> Looking into it some more:
> 
> HZ == 250 kernel (good):
> 
> Calibrating delay loop (skipped), value calculated using timer frequency.. 2986.79 BogoMIPS (lpj=5973580)
> 
> HZ == 1000 kernel (bad):
> 
> Calibrating delay loop (skipped), using tsc calculated value.. 2990.35 BogoMIPS (lpj=1495176)
> 
> HZ == 1000 kernel with hackyfix (good):
> 
> Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 3016.68 BogoMIPS (lpj=6033376)
> 
> 
> Argggh... lpj is used for udelay() & friends so this bug is quite
> dangerous (since udelay() & friends are used for hardware delays)...

It may be not as severe as I initially thought,
(obviously) the real hardware works fine:

calibrate_delay_direct(): lpj=1495884
Calibrating delay loop (skipped), value calculated using timer frequency.. 2990.36 BogoMIPS (lpj=1495183)

So the issue only affects qemu ATM.

Thanks,
Bart
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