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Message-ID: <20081216101551.GA27481@elte.hu>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:15:51 +0100
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>
Cc: Ken Chen <kenchen@...gle.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [patch] x86: convert rdtscll() to use __native_read_tsc
* Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org> wrote:
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> The reason for the __native_read_tsc() / native_read_tsc() distinction
>> is and obscure problem with paravirt function pointers. Such
>> constructs:
>>
>> ./xen/enlighten.c: .read_tsc = native_read_tsc,
>>
>> do not always work fine with all versions of gcc, if native_read_tsc()
>> is a simple static inline (as it should be) - the build would fail with
>> certain gcc flags.
>
> I don't think that's true. We rely on taking function pointers of
> static inlines pretty extensively; native_read_tsc is hardly unique in
> this respect. I don't remember seeing any problems of the sort you
> describe. (I can well believe this may have been a problem at some
> point, but not during the pv-ops development timeframe.)
i do remember build and boot failures there - with weird combos of gcc
options. It's a clear GCC bug. Anyway, we can clean this up and we'll see
how relevant the failure modes are.
>> Perhaps the real fix is to do this rename as well:
>>
>> native_read_tsc => native_read_tsc_paravirt
>> __native_read_tsc => native_read_tsc
>>
>> as this makes the native_read_tsc_paravirt() a pure technical variant,
>> to be used in paravirt_ops function pointer assignments. People would
>> thus just use the obvious native_read_tsc() inline function most of the
>> time and could forget about native_read_tsc_paravirt().
>>
>> Jeremy?
>
> I'm trying to remember the real reason for
> __native_read_tsc/native_read_tsc. At least part of it is that
> __native_read_tsc is used in a vdso, and so *must* be inlined to avoid a
> bogus call from user to kernel space. But I don't know why you wouldn't
> want to inline native_read_tsc everywhere. I have a feeling it may be a
> relic from unification - possibly because x86-64 was late to the
> clocksource party - but I don't remember anything specific.
>
> I think we can probably make do with a single native_read_tsc, so long
> as its always inlined.
agreed mostly, with this twist: vdso inlining dependencies should be
expressed explicitly, via:
native_vread_tsc()
but we can also make native_read_tsc() __always_inline [it's a single
instruction with basically no preparatory halo around that instruction]
and document the vdso detail there.
Ingo
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