linux-kernel - Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend

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Message-ID: <20090217145141.GA26158@srcf.ucam.org>
Date:	Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:51:41 +0000
From:	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>
To:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Cc:	Brian Swetland <swetland@...gle.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	"Woodruff, Richard" <r-woodruff2@...com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Kyle Moffett <kyle@...fetthome.net>,
	Oliver Neukum <oliver@...kum.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	pm list <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@...roid.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@...el.suspend2.net>,
	mark gross <mgross@...ux.intel.com>,
	Uli Luckas <u.luckas@...d.de>,
	Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@...ia.com>,
	Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:46:30AM -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:

> actually with powertop... on the open source side things are actually
> won. It took all of 6 months...
> I don't see that as a valid excuse. In fact, if this kind of solution
> makes real userspace scheduled timers to be missed then I consider it a
> serious functionality misfeature.

Remember that Android has an open marketplace designed to appeal to Java 
programmers - users are going to end up downloading code from there and 
then blaming the platform if their battery life heads towards zero. I 
think "We can't trust our userland not to be dumb" is a valid concern.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@...f.ucam.org
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