linux-kernel - Re: Staging, place holder for better company/community development model

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Message-Id: <1236633633.9658.23.camel@johannes.local>
Date:	Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:20:33 +0100
From:	Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>
To:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
Cc:	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...il.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jouni Malinen <j@...fi>, Sujith <m.sujith@...il.com>,
	Sujith <Sujith.Manoharan@...eros.com>,
	Senthilkumar Balasubramanian 
	<Senthilkumar.Balasubramanian@...eros.com>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Vasanthakumar Thiagarajan <vasanth@...eros.com>
Subject: Re: Staging, place holder for better company/community development
	model

On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 12:41 -0700, Greg KH wrote:

> > Staging drivers will typically be an extremely huge amount of crap that
> > just floods mailing lists. I don't care about those I don't read, but I
> > would prefer to not have wireless staging drivers cross the wireless
> > list which makes it seem like somebody is actually interested in those
> > drivers.
> 
> I was asked by the wireless maintainer and some of the wireless
> developers to send such patches to the list, so that everyone knows
> exactly what is going on in the staging tree.

This is a misrepresentation, a number of people have asked for this on
specific drivers they are actively working on and that already are in
usable shape.

> That's not true, some of them are being reworked as you type, to be a
> "real" wireless driver eventually.
> 
> Incremental development over time is sometimes a good thing, instead of
> total rewrites :)

Except it doesn't work for most of the wireless drivers you've sucked in
without asking any wireless developers whether that makes any sense or
not.

johannes

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