linux-kernel - Re: Linux 2.6.29

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Message-ID: <20090330100546.51907bd2@the-village.bc.nu>
Date:	Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:05:46 +0100
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	"Andreas T.Auer" <andreas.t.auer_lkml_73537@...us.ath.cx>
Cc:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Mark Lord <lkml@....ca>,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@...6.in-berlin.de>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	David Rees <drees76@...il.com>, Jesper Krogh <jesper@...gh.cc>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.29

> It seems you still didn't get the point. ext3 data=ordered is not the
> problem. The problem is that the average developer doesn't expect the fs
> to _re-order_ stuff. This is how most common fs did work long before

No it isn´t. Standard Unix file systems made no such guarantee and would
write out data out of order. The disk scheduler would then further
re-order things.

If you think the ¨guarantees¨ from before ext3 are normal defaults you´ve
been writing junk code

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