linux-kernel - Re: [RFC][PATCH] memcg soft limit (yet another new design) v1

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Date:	Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:19:02 +0530
From:	Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
Cc:	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	"kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	"nishimura@....nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@....nes.nec.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] memcg soft limit (yet another new design) v1

* KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com> [2009-03-31 15:28:43]:

> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:40:10 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > Swapout for A? For A it is expected, but for B it is not. How many
> > > > nodes do you have on your machine? Any fake numa nodes?
> > > > 
> > > Of course, from B.
> > >
> > 
> > I asked because I see A have a swapout of 350 MB, which is expected
> > since it is way over its soft limit.
> >  
> gcc doesn't use so much RSS..ld ?

Yes, the ld step consumes a lot of memory, depending on file size and
number of parallel tasks, memory consumption does go up.

> 
> > > Nothing special boot options. My test was on VMware 2cpus/1.6GB memory.
> > > 
> > > I wonder why swapout can be 0 on your test. Do you add some extra hooks to
> > > kswapd ?
> > >
> > 
> > Nope.. no special hooks to kswapd. B never enters the RB-Tree and thus
> > never hits the memcg soft limit reclaim path. kswapd can reclaim from
> > it, but it grows back quickly.
> Why grows back ? tasks in B sleeps ?

Since B continuously consumes memory

> 
> >  At some point, memcg soft limit reclaim
> > hits A and reclaims memory from it, allowing B to run without any
> > problems. I am talking about the state at the end of the experiment.
> > 
> Considering LRU rotation (ACTIVE->INACTIVE), pages in group B never goes back
> to ACTIVE list and can be the first candidates for swap-out via kswapd.
> 
> Hmm....kswapd doesn't work at all ?
> 
> (or 1700MB was too much.)
>

No 1700MB is not too much, since we reclaim from A towards the end
when ld runs. I need to investigate more and look at the watermarks,
may be soft limit reclaim reclaims enough and/or the watermarks are
not very high. I use fake NUMA nodes as well.
 
> Thanks,
> -Kame
> 
> 

-- 
	Balbir
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